Vehicle: Honda Accord 1987

Owner's Problem Description

The owner reports that their 1987 Honda Accord sputters and shakes during acceleration, particularly when the A/C is on. This issue occurs intermittently and began about a week and a half ago. The owner attempted to clean the carburetor and gas lines but noticed minimal improvement. The symptoms tend to appear after the car has been running for about 10-15 minutes, also showing signs of potential stalling while idling.

Professional Technical Analysis

The 1987 Honda Accord, equipped with a 2.0L inline-4 engine and approximately 150,000 miles, is exhibiting intermittent sputtering and shaking during acceleration, particularly noticeable when the air conditioning is engaged. The symptoms appear to worsen after the vehicle has warmed up, suggesting a potential thermal or load-related fault. The owner’s previous attempts to clean the carburetor and fuel lines indicate a proactive approach, yet these measures have not resolved the issue. A systematic diagnostic approach is warranted, starting with OBD-II scanning to rule out any stored fault codes, particularly related to the ignition or fuel systems. Common failure points in this model include aging spark plugs (specifications: gap 0.044 inches, resistance 4,000-8,000 ohms), ignition wires (resistance should not exceed 10,000 ohms), and vacuum leaks which can affect engine performance under load. The presence of symptoms after the engine has warmed up points towards possible heat-induced failures in ignition components or fuel delivery inconsistencies. Furthermore, a thorough inspection of the carburetor for proper adjustment and choke function is essential, as improper air-fuel mixture can lead to stalling and performance issues. Safety considerations include ensuring the vehicle is in a stable condition for diagnostics, particularly if stalling is evident, which could pose a risk in traffic. The overall condition assessment reveals an aging vehicle that requires careful attention to its ignition and fuel systems to maintain reliability and performance.

Possible Causes

Most common causes (ordered by frequency):

  1. Aging Spark Plugs: The spark plugs are likely worn out, leading to misfires. In this model, spark plugs should have a gap of 0.044 inches and a resistance within the range of 4,000-8,000 ohms. A misfire can cause sputtering during acceleration, particularly noticeable when the engine is warm. Regular replacement every 30,000 miles is recommended to maintain performance. - Noticeable sputtering during acceleration, difficulty maintaining smooth idle, potential stored codes related to misfire.
  2. Faulty Ignition Wires: The ignition wires may have high resistance or be damaged, leading to weak spark delivery. High resistance should not exceed 10,000 ohms. If the wires are worn, it can cause intermittent misfires and sputtering, especially under load conditions such as when the A/C is on. - Engine misfires when A/C is engaged, potential visual damage to wires, increased resistance readings.
  3. Carburetor Misadjustment: The carburetor may be improperly adjusted, leading to an incorrect air-fuel mixture. This can cause sputtering, poor acceleration, and stalling, especially when the engine is warm. A thorough inspection and adjustment may be required to ensure proper operation. - Symptoms worsen with temperature increase, visible fuel leaks or improper idle settings.

Diagnostic Steps

Professional Diagnosis Process

Follow these systematic steps to accurately diagnose the issue. Each step builds on the previous one to ensure accurate diagnosis.

  1. STEP 1 - Initial OBD-II Scan: Begin with a comprehensive OBD-II scan using a professional scanner or the GeekOBD APP to retrieve any stored fault codes. This will help identify any potential issues related to the ignition or fuel systems. Pay attention to any misfire codes (P0300-P0304) which could indicate specific cylinder issues.
  2. STEP 2 - Visual Inspection of Ignition Components: Inspect spark plugs and ignition wires for wear or damage. Measure the resistance of the ignition wires, which should not exceed 10,000 ohms. Check the spark plug gap (0.044 inches) and look for signs of fouling or wear.
  3. STEP 3 - Carburetor Adjustment and Inspection: Inspect the carburetor for any signs of incorrect adjustment or wear. Verify that the choke is functioning properly, and check for any air leaks or fuel delivery issues. Make adjustments as necessary to ensure a proper air-fuel mixture.
  4. STEP 4 - Road Test with Live Data Monitoring: Conduct a road test while monitoring live data using the GeekOBD APP. Observe fuel trim adjustments, ignition timing, and engine RPM during acceleration. Document any irregularities that occur while the symptoms manifest.

Repair Recommendations

CRITICAL PRIORITY - Replace Spark Plugs and Wires: Given the probable aging of the ignition components, replace the spark plugs with OEM part number 98079-58610 at an estimated cost of $100-150 (parts and labor). Ensure the new spark plugs are properly gapped and the wires are tested for resistance within specifications. This will prevent misfires and improve performance.

Priority: critical

HIGH PRIORITY - Carburetor Adjustment: After inspecting the carburetor, make the necessary adjustments to ensure the air-fuel mixture is correct. Consider replacing worn components with OEM parts as needed, with costs potentially ranging from $50-200 depending on the parts required.

Priority: high

MEDIUM PRIORITY - Comprehensive System Check: Utilize the GeekOBD APP for ongoing diagnostics and preventive maintenance checks every 5,000 miles. Regular checks can identify issues before they escalate, ensuring components remain in good working order and preventing future failures.

Priority: medium

Preventive Tips

  • Regular Spark Plug Inspection: Check spark plugs every 10,000 miles for wear and proper gap. Replace them as needed to ensure optimal engine performance and prevent misfires. Using the GeekOBD APP can help monitor engine performance trends over time.
  • Air-Fuel Mixture Checks: Regularly inspect the carburetor adjustments and air-fuel mixture settings to maintain proper engine performance. Keeping the carburetor in good condition will prevent issues related to sputtering and stalling.
  • Scheduled Maintenance Intervals: Follow a strict maintenance schedule including spark plug replacement, ignition wire checks, and carburetor adjustments to avoid performance-related issues. Document all maintenance performed using the GeekOBD APP for future reference.

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