Vehicle: Chrysler Concorde 1998

Owner's Problem Description

The owner of a 1998 Chrysler Concorde is attempting to replace the thermostat but is facing difficulties with the alternator removal. After significant effort, including removing hoses and the fan casing, they are concerned about further complications. The engine is overheating despite the temperature gauge not indicating a hot reading. The owner seeks advice on potential next steps and overall vehicle serviceability.

Professional Technical Analysis

The 1998 Chrysler Concorde is equipped with a 2.7L or 3.5L V6 engine, both of which are known for their compact design, making access to components like the thermostat challenging. The reported overheating issue, with symptoms including rapid boiling of coolant within five minutes of driving, suggests a potential failure of the thermostat. The gauge not reading hot may indicate a faulty temperature sensor or gauge itself. Removing the alternator is not typically necessary for thermostat access; rather, only the alternator strut should be detached. The fact that hoses and fan casings were removed indicates an attempt to create space, but this can lead to additional complications such as misalignment or reinstallation difficulties. The current condition of the vehicle highlights the need for a systematic approach to diagnosing the overheating issue after thermostat replacement. The owner should ensure that the cooling system is properly bled and check for any air pockets that might prevent proper coolant circulation.

Possible Causes

Most common causes (ordered by frequency):

  1. Thermostat Failure: The thermostat may be stuck closed, preventing coolant flow and causing the engine to overheat. This would explain the rapid boiling of coolant. Typical failure occurs in thermostats after 100,000 miles, especially in vehicles that have experienced cooling system issues. The replacement thermostat should ensure proper opening temperature, typically around 195°F for this engine. - Coolant boiling, engine temperature rising rapidly, previous cooling system issues.
  2. Faulty Temperature Sensor: If the temperature sensor is malfunctioning, it may not accurately reflect the engine's temperature, leading to a false reading on the gauge. This could result in the owner believing the engine is not overheating while it is actually overheating. Testing the sensor with a multimeter should reveal proper resistance values at various temperatures. - Gauge not indicating hot, potential DTCs related to coolant temperature, inconsistent engine temperature readings.
  3. Air Pockets in Cooling System: After any service involving the cooling system, air pockets can form, preventing proper coolant circulation. This could lead to localized overheating, especially if the thermostat is replaced without thoroughly bleeding the system. It is critical to follow the manufacturer's bleeding procedure to ensure all air is removed. - Overheating symptoms after service, difficulty bleeding the system, inconsistent coolant flow.

Diagnostic Steps

Professional Diagnosis Process

Follow these systematic steps to accurately diagnose the issue. Each step builds on the previous one to ensure accurate diagnosis.

  1. STEP 1 - Identify Engine Type: Confirm whether the engine is the 2.7L or 3.5L V6. The thermostat location differs, affecting the repair approach. The 2.7L has the thermostat located near the lower radiator hose, while the 3.5L is more accessible at the top. Confirm by checking the vehicle identification number (VIN) or engine label.
  2. STEP 2 - Assess Cooling System: Inspect the entire cooling system for leaks, ensuring that hoses and connections are secure. Check the coolant level and condition, and look for any signs of air pockets in the system. Use the GeekOBD APP to scan for any related trouble codes that may indicate sensor issues or overheating concerns.
  3. STEP 3 - Test Temperature Sensor: Remove and test the temperature sensor using a multimeter to check for proper resistance values. The sensor should read approximately 2,200 ohms at room temperature and decrease as the temperature rises. If it fails to provide accurate readings, replacement may be necessary.
  4. STEP 4 - Thermostat Replacement and System Bleeding: Once the thermostat is accessible, replace it with a new unit that meets OEM specifications. After installation, thoroughly bleed the cooling system to eliminate any air pockets, following the manufacturer's recommended procedure. Monitor the system using the GeekOBD APP to ensure proper operation post-repair.

Repair Recommendations

CRITICAL PRIORITY - Replace Thermostat: It's essential to replace the thermostat to address the overheating issue effectively. Ensure to use an OEM part (P/N 4672209AA for the 2.7L or P/N 4621204AA for the 3.5L) to guarantee proper fit and function. Expect labor time of about 1-2 hours, with parts costing around $30-$70, plus labor.

Priority: critical

HIGH PRIORITY - Test and Replace Temperature Sensor: If the temperature sensor is found faulty, it should be replaced with an OEM part (P/N 5014623AA) to ensure accurate temperature readings. This replacement can typically be performed within 30 minutes, costing around $50-$100 for the part.

Priority: high

MEDIUM PRIORITY - Flush and Refill Cooling System: After replacing the thermostat and any faulty components, it is advisable to flush the cooling system and refill with manufacturer-recommended coolant to ensure optimal performance. This process should take about 1 hour and cost around $50 for coolant and supplies.

Priority: Medium

Preventive Tips

  • Regular Cooling System Maintenance: Schedule routine checks of the cooling system, including coolant level checks and hose inspections every 30,000 miles or as needed. This helps prevent overheating issues and maintains system efficiency.
  • Monitor Engine Temperature: Use the GeekOBD APP to regularly monitor engine temperature readings and coolant temperature during operation. This proactive approach can help identify potential overheating issues before they escalate.
  • Conduct Cooling System Flush: Perform a comprehensive flush of the cooling system every 2-3 years to remove any buildup of contaminants and ensure optimal coolant flow. This can prevent blockages that lead to overheating.

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