Vehicle: Saturn L200 2002

Owner's Problem Description

The owner's 2002 Saturn L200 has started stalling while driving on the highway. This issue first occurred when the owner's wife was driving on the interstate. After stalling, the vehicle was towed to a Buick dealership where diagnostics revealed no issues. However, the problem recurred later that night, with the vehicle stalling multiple times during a subsequent drive. It would restart after a waiting period but eventually stalled again and was towed to a Saturn dealership, where the problem remains unresolved.

Professional Technical Analysis

The 2002 Saturn L200 is equipped with a 2.2L inline-4 engine and an automatic transmission, typically averaging around 120,000 miles. The owner reports intermittent stalling while driving, particularly at highway speeds. Symptoms include abrupt engine shutdowns, with the vehicle requiring a waiting period before it can be restarted. The dealership's diagnostic tests have shown no faults in the fuel system pressure or charging system, which suggests possible issues with ignition components or sensor failures. A thorough review of interconnections is necessary: the PCM controls fuel delivery based on inputs from the crankshaft position sensor (CPS) and ignition control module (ICM). If the CPS fails while the engine is hot, it can lead to stalling as the PCM may not receive necessary timing signals. The ICM may also exhibit thermal failure, particularly under prolonged highway driving conditions, which is common in this model. With reported instances of stalling, it is vital to monitor both fuel pressure and spark during stall events. The normal fuel pressure for the fuel system should be 41-47 PSI. An oscilloscope can be used to check the ignition signal integrity. Current vehicle condition indicates that stalling poses a safety risk, particularly in high-speed conditions, and could lead to accidents if not addressed promptly.

Possible Causes

Most common causes (ordered by frequency):

  1. Crankshaft Position Sensor (CPS) failure: The CPS is critical for providing accurate position data to the PCM. If the CPS fails intermittently, especially when hot, the PCM may not receive the necessary signals, causing stalling. The CPS should have a resistance value of 200-800 ohms; testing should be done when the engine is at operating temperature. Common failures are observed after 80,000 miles, particularly in high-heat environments. - Engine stalling at highway speeds, troubleshooting revealing no fuel pressure issues, CPS resistance readings out of specification when hot.
  2. Ignition Control Module (ICM) thermal failure: The ICM may fail when exposed to high temperatures, interrupting the ignition signal. This failure often manifests after prolonged driving at high speeds, where the engine bay temperature exceeds 200°F. A failed ICM can lead to loss of spark, causing the engine to stall. Testing the ICM should include checking for proper resistance values (1-5 ohms) and signal output during operation. - Symptoms of stalling, particularly after long drives, ICM testing shows intermittent output under high temperatures, which can lead to no-start conditions.
  3. Fuel System Issues: Despite initial tests indicating normal fuel pressure, intermittent issues can arise from the fuel pump relay or wiring that becomes compromised under heat and vibration. The fuel pressure should be verified (41-47 PSI) during stall conditions. The fuel pump should provide adequate flow (minimum 30 PSI) and should be tested under load with a pressure gauge. - Intermittent stalling, pressure gauge shows fluctuations during operation, wiring harness inspection reveals wear or damage.

Diagnostic Steps

Professional Diagnosis Process

Follow these systematic steps to accurately diagnose the issue. Each step builds on the previous one to ensure accurate diagnosis.

  1. STEP 1 - Initial OBD-II Scan: Utilize the GeekOBD APP for a comprehensive OBD-II scan to retrieve any stored codes. Pay close attention to any pending codes related to the ignition system or CPS. Freeze frame data can provide context regarding engine conditions when stalling occurs.
  2. STEP 2 - Monitor Live Data: Use the GeekOBD APP to monitor live data including fuel pressure readings and ignition signals during driving. Specifically, check the fuel pressure while the vehicle is under load; it should remain stable between 41-47 PSI. Additionally, observe the ignition timing and any fluctuations in the ICM signal.
  3. STEP 3 - Component Testing: Conduct targeted tests on the CPS and ICM based on the data collected. Check the resistance of the CPS (should be 200-800 ohms) and measure the ICM’s output signal using an oscilloscope to ensure it is functioning under normal conditions.
  4. STEP 4 - Road Test: Perform a controlled road test while monitoring parameters through the GeekOBD APP. Document any instances of stalling and correlate them with data collected, particularly focusing on fuel pressure and ignition signal integrity during these events.

Repair Recommendations

HIGH PRIORITY - Replace Crankshaft Position Sensor: Given the intermittent nature of the stalling, the CPS is a likely culprit. Replace the CPS with OEM part number 12558650 (approximately $150). Post-replacement, verify the resistance and ensure proper signal output under operating conditions. Clear any codes using GeekOBD APP and perform a road test to confirm the repair.

Priority: high

MEDIUM PRIORITY - Test and Possibly Replace Ignition Control Module: Given the symptoms, ICM testing is critical. If the ICM is found to fail under heat, replace it with OEM part number 10456239 (approximately $120). Monitor the ICM during operation to ensure it maintains proper output at higher temperatures.

Priority: medium

LOW PRIORITY - Fuel System Inspection: While fuel pressure has been reported as normal, inspect the fuel pump relay and wiring for heat-related failures. If issues are found, replace the fuel pump relay (OEM part number 15125709, approximately $30) and ensure all connections are secure.

Priority: low

Preventive Tips

  • Regular Component Inspections: Schedule regular inspections for the CPS and ICM, particularly for vehicles with high mileage. This can help identify potential issues before they lead to failures. Consider using the GeekOBD APP for monitoring performance trends over time.
  • Routine Electrical Connections Maintenance: Regularly inspect and clean electrical connectors, particularly in high-heat areas. Use dielectric grease to prevent corrosion and ensure reliable connections. This can extend the lifespan of critical components such as the CPS and ICM.
  • Fuel System Maintenance: Regularly check fuel filter and pump operation as part of routine maintenance. Replace the fuel filter every 30,000 miles to ensure proper fuel delivery and maintain pressure within specifications.

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